Curse

Narcissus · Jul 13, 2005, 08:54 PM // 20:54

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Originally Posted by Cap'n Hoek

The ascension missions (most others too) are fairly easy to do with henchmen as a monk player. I'm sure a lot of them are going this route.

Bingo

Thirsty River can be done with henchies for a non monk: Was a breeze with My Hydromancer/Ranger (Maelstrom > Josso/priests).

Thunderhead keep I'm a bit doubtful of... but I can't see why anyone would feel the need to lie on the internet.

salja Wachi · Jul 13, 2005, 08:56 PM // 20:56

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Originally Posted by Mormegil

Stop spreading misinformation, and stop telling people to practice up. You don't even know if I'm skilled or not and assuming I'm not is childish and arrogant.

I'm sorry, you're wrong here. Thunderhead Keep is impossible only with henchies with a non-healer char. It's not about skill: the King has suicidal tendencies all the time, Alesia is probably the better rusher in the whole game and usually gets killed first. You won't keep the King alive, even though you have Uber tactics and such.

Or maybe you're a prodigy and can PM me how you managed to do it (yes, this is an occasion to admit you're simply bragging and lying).

our conversation is over.

you cannot do it so you say others cannot. the king stays at the top of the stairs all you ahve to do is stay up thre with him. the mobs ony come 2-3 at a time.

again i am sorry if you cannot do it, too bad you are not skilled enough.

practice some more and keep trying.

Mormegil · Jul 13, 2005, 09:02 PM // 21:02

Hilarious.

borkbork · Jul 13, 2005, 09:02 PM // 21:02

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Originally Posted by salja Wachi

our conversation is over.

you cannot do it so you say others cannot. the king stays at the top of the stairs all you ahve to do is stay up thre with him. the mobs ony come 2-3 at a time.

again i am sorry if you cannot do it, too bad you are not skilled enough.

practice some more and keep trying.

- You can definitely hench the first part thunderhead keep. Getting to the defending keep part is so much easier with henchies, even with a "suicidal" king. I don't know what's so suicidal about him.. he's quite a good tank and can hold his own for quite a bit.

You do you realize he follows you, and its easy to keep him in the back for a couple second while the henchie tanks run foward.

For the second part, form a ring around the king. It was harder back then without the henchies being infused completely. Now all you have to do is withstand the first wave of giants and its pretty much smooth sailing.

salja Wachi · Jul 13, 2005, 09:07 PM // 21:07

oops mormegail you gonna call someone else a lair now??

coem on call us all liars. the ony hilarious thing is you not being able to admit that someone might be able to do something you cannot.

come on i want to see you call borkbork a liar now too

Mormegil · Jul 13, 2005, 09:12 PM // 21:12

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Originally Posted by borkbork

- You can definitely hench the first part thunderhead keep. Getting to the defending keep part is so much easier with henchies, even with a "suicidal" king. I don't know what's so suicidal about him.. he's quite a good tank and can hold his own for quite a bit.

You do you realize he follows you, and its easy to keep him in the back for a couple second while the henchie tanks run foward.

For the second part, form a ring around the king. It was harder back then without the henchies being infused completely. Now all you have to do is withstand the first wave of giants and its pretty much smooth sailing.

They're not fully infused, only 3 pieces, and take loads of dmg from mursaats.

salja Wachi · Jul 13, 2005, 09:15 PM // 21:15

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Originally Posted by Mormegil

They're not fully infused, only 3 pieces, and take loads of dmg from mursaats.

only thing hilarious here is you. give it up, notice how no one else has agreed with you that it is impossible?

Mormegil · Jul 13, 2005, 09:17 PM // 21:17

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Originally Posted by salja Wachi

only thing hilarious here is you. give it up, notice how no one else has agreed with you that it is impossible?

If you don't even know henchies aren't fully infused you won't get much far...btw I'm off, spread your misinformation anywhere you want, sir.

borkbork · Jul 13, 2005, 09:23 PM // 21:23

Since it was so damn easy to finish the first part of thunderhead with pre-patched henchies, even if they were "only infused with 3" now.. doesn't that make it easier?

infernal · Jul 13, 2005, 09:23 PM // 21:23

First, I'd just like to say that while I'm nowhere near the "Suicidal King", my early experience with henchies leads me to beleive there's not a whole lot you can't do with them if you just manage them correctly. It still amazes me that peeps don't know the relationship between henchies and targetting.
But closer to the original thread, as a healing monk I'm fed up with rangers (main culprits) and casters who think they can tank. To keep them alive requires ALL of your energy (and even that isn't enough sometimes) and before battle is halfway through, you're tapped. "Sorry warriors, all my healing just went to the ranger. See you on the other side!".
It's a two-way street. We all hate monks that can't 'monk', and monks all hate players who can't play.

..and nary the twain shall meet!

Mormegil · Jul 13, 2005, 09:26 PM // 21:26

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Originally Posted by borkbork

Since it was so damn easy to finish the first part of thunderhead with pre-patched henchies, even if they were "only infused with 3" now.. doesn't that make it easier?

The first part is not involved, you only fight Mursaats in the second part...

AeroLion · Jul 13, 2005, 09:26 PM // 21:26

It's not misinformation. I did Thunderhead Keep earlier today with my Me/Mo with all henchmen. The only Mo spell I have is rebirth with 4 in Healing Prayers. Otherwise, I'm all domination with one inspiration spell. Clearing the fort is quite easy. Just take one group at a time, which is possible if you watch the patrols and, if you have to, back track to attack from an angle that keeps you from being hit from multiple groups.

Then, it's a fairly simple matter of camping the King. The groups come in with enough of a delay that you're usually not fighting on two fronts. The only problem is when a boss shows up. Usually it's Perfected Armor or a Mursaat Monk. For me, it was a Mursaat Ele who came with two Necros. That part is quite hard but with Lina and Mhenlo, you can do it. People will die here so you do need a way to at least bring Mhenlo or Lina back if they fall. After that it's cake.

Mormegil · Jul 13, 2005, 09:28 PM // 21:28

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Originally Posted by AeroLion

It's not misinformation. I did Thunderhead Keep earlier today with my Me/Mo with all henchmen. The only Mo spell I have is rebirth with 4 in Healing Prayers. Otherwise, I'm all domination with one inspiration spell. Clearing the fort is quite easy. Just take one group at a time, which is possible if you watch the patrols and, if you have to, back track to attack from an angle that keeps you from being hit from multiple groups.

Then, it's a fairly simple matter of camping the King. The groups come in with enough of a delay that you're usually not fighting on two fronts. The only problem is when a boss shows up. Usually it's Perfected Armor or a Mursaat Monk. For me, it was a Mursaat Ele who came with two Necros. That part is quite hard but with Lina and Mhenlo, you can do it. People will die here so you do need a way to at least bring Mhenlo or Lina back if they fall. After that it's cake.

Indeed...you had rezs and thats enough. My point is that you simply CANT do it without being a Monk primary or secondary.

salja Wachi · Jul 13, 2005, 09:29 PM // 21:29

aero we are all liars you know? no way we can finish it with henchies because mormegil is way better than we will ever be and he cannot do it.

so all we do here is write lie after lie =D

velgar · Jul 13, 2005, 09:30 PM // 21:30

Erm, dosen't ranger armor provide the same ammount of armor as the warrior one? And, there's some skill that allow caster to tank as well if not better then warrior ( Armor of earth, mist form, ranger stance, etc) so it's not alway true that the non-warrior are draining all the monk energy.( But I do admit that an unprepare soft-target who rush first in the fight can be bad)

AeroLion · Jul 13, 2005, 09:30 PM // 21:30

Yes, you can. I only had to rez once.

borkbork · Jul 13, 2005, 09:30 PM // 21:30

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Originally Posted by Mormegil

The first part is not involved, you only fight Mursaats in the second part...

Ok my bad, but people first whine about the suicidal king - that first part is definitely doable with henchies.

The second part is holding the keep. What's so hard about forming a ring? The mobs don't come up the stairs since they're mostly ranged. Against the Mursaat, 3 pieces makes the mission much easier than before.

And I was Mesmer/Necro.

Well of Power ftw with putrid explosion.

Mormegil · Jul 13, 2005, 09:32 PM // 21:32

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Originally Posted by salja Wachi

aero we are all liars you know? no way we can finish it with henchies because mormegil is way better than we will ever be and he cannot do it.

so all we do here is write lie after lie =D

You really should stop posting things like this. You're making yourself look ridiculous. And use some punctuation please, will you? No one says im better than anyone, you're the only one who flamed telling me I "had to practice to get better".

Besides, I said you cant do it if your not monk, primary or secondary. This guy is monk secondary, so why you're quoting him to flame me? Do you even read posts before replying?

Reading comprehension is your friend.

Mister Glue · Jul 13, 2005, 09:35 PM // 21:35

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Originally Posted by salja Wachi

as a matter of fact i have done thirsty and thunderhead with all henchies. thats right just me and henchies.

try it sometime, it takes skill.

I've done the last mission in the game with Henchies. It really doesn't take skill, just patience.

And to comment on the original message of this thread: Yes, there are a lack of monks in Ascension missions. Why not make your own monk then? Or get a few guildies to come and help you. It's amazing what friends can do

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salja Wachi · Jul 13, 2005, 09:35 PM // 21:35

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Originally Posted by Mormegil

You really should stop posting things like this. You're making yourself look ridiculous. And use some punctuation please, will you? No one says im better than anyone, you're the only one who flamed telling me I "had to practice to get better".

Besides, I said you cant do it if your not monk, primary or secondary. This guys is monk secondary, so why you're quoting him to flame me? Do you even read posts before replying?

Reading comprehension is your friend.

he said he only had ro rez one time!! that means he could have used a res sig like i brought

you are correct reading comprehension is your friend. so try reading what he wrote.

and you are the one who called me a liar so who looks rediculous??

not me by a long shot